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#51 (permalink)      12/21/2021 7:25:04 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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#52 (permalink)      12/21/2021 7:26:34 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Mmm well got a link to work, so you can see the Imren, and 2 re wraps i did

Sorry using cell phone

Wasnt it the C rateing we had to take notice off, min 10C

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Look up mooch recommended batteries, or look up battery mooch and find his blog, his youtube, his whatever your preference is, he has great info to give you, basically good straight info on batteries. He has a chart with recommended batteries and actual ratings very easy to use.

He made an interesting point some place and I can't remember where about how batteries are a balance, they just wont fit the components in them to be good at everything. So spotting fake specs is easy when you have that info. If it has crazy high Mah + amps good chance it is fake.

Also buy batteries from a site you trust, not the site they are the cheapest, IMO. I am not dumping on FT, but when you sell so many fakes and re-wraps and BS batteries, and have a long history of it, I am not buying my batteries from you. It may not be a popular opinion, but at the end of the day my safety and yours is not about popularity. The reason I am not dumping on them with that statement IMO, is because I believe it is a cultural difference, and a type of shop thing more than it is about malice or ill intent. They are not in this to be the most trusted source of vape batteries, they are in this to sell batteries. When it comes to my batteries I want trust, not the ability to sell allot of batteries of varying types and quality. Specialty shops are specialty shops for a reason.
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When it comes to C ratings I don't have a clue I'm afraid - I know that l-ion batteries are best stored at room temperature to avoid fast deterioration and can perform poorly in very hot or cold temperatures, but for vaping use my personal priority is high Amp draw capability over mah capacity (but I regularly vape at high power settings), my batteries are either stored at home or in a mod or padded case in my coat pocket so I doubt that they have ever been in temperatures lower than 10C or higher than 30..

I completely agree with Eternal Spline's observation - Battery Mooch's 'Minding Your Mahs' series of uploads on Youtube are well worth your time, and when it comes to battery purchases it is worth searching for a dedicated speciality battery shop. For example I have bought Samsung 25R batteries from eBay that were useless after 50 charges, when I bought 25Rs from a dedicated battery shop the cells had much higher capacity, performed better, didn't get hot, the mod I was using them in didn't cut out early because of excessive voltage drop under load - and they were still viable after a few hundred charges. The capacity deteriorated gradually due to normal ageing, but I am a high wattage vaper and I habitually vape at close to the maximum constant discharge current draw so genuine batteries should give you a longer service life considering your low power settings.

Personally I wouldn't even buy batteries from a UK Vape shop as will happily sell low Amp batteries to people with high power mods as they seem to be under the impression that capacity is the most important consideration and the Amp rating seems to be a mystery to them. Ebay is a minefield full of fake cells and mystery re-wraps and you must be very careful with Amazon, personally I would give both a wide berth when it comes to batteries.

There are two reputable online specialist battery sellers in the UK that I use regularly, they are Fogstar(dot)co(dot)uk and 18650(dot)co(dot)uk - I have used both and everything I've bought from them has been good. You may find the same stuff cheaper elsewhere, but there are a lot of knock offs being sold - the specialist suppliers test their stock, others don't.
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Ok, some years ago i did learn a lot, hell of a lot, became quite an expert, sadly ill heath has destroyed most of my knowledge and im needing to start again. It takes something to trigger my mind palace, as used by Sherlock Holmes...

So i grabbed this information about the c rating, im sure you can research this further if you wanted to learn. Im thinking 10C was good, but 12C was better, nothing to do with temperature.

C-rating of a 18650 battery is the measure of the rate at which a battery can be discharged relative to its maximum capacity. This means a battery with a higher c rating is capable of discharging more current at a time than a battery with a lower c rating. So, basically the c rating of the battery is meant to let you know how much current can be drawn out of the battery at a time without creating any negative effects on the battery.

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#56 (permalink)      12/21/2021 10:56:18 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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I am very fussy about who i buy from, FT had a good reputation of replacing or refunding anything faulty. Recently AliExpress has also now got a good reputation of sorting out bad products.

Ebay, i was only buying from that Torchy guy and nobody else, he has tested the ones he sells now, but i dont recognize any makers, so how many times have you seen genuine ultrafire battries, not fake.. when we all know the ultrafire is a fake name anyway.

So Imren was the best then, but i think they sold up. Im going to look at all the shops and battries listed above. Ive bought a Nautilus fake metal hollow and a pyrex tank, so that leaves the base thats listed on here, but not available in stainless steel at the moment. So need to wait for that.

Then my wifes tank will be the same as mine with better quality Chinese parts, they do make some great stuff.

Then im going to look for a spair tank on here, way to expensive in uk, and new EU rules in place.

2ml tanks, 10ml eliquid, anti tamper and more makes the stuff in Uk rubbish.

Its got so bad, that hollow tank i bought, i had to use a company called "verify my age" to prove im over 18, all done in the background without you knowing that service was used... Some data protection we have in the Uk is total junk thesedays.

Im using a VPN to fox a lot of prying eyes.

You should know, genuine parts are being sold by the same company that makes them for the brand names... Bit on the side helps them make more money.. i dont mine

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Got it Welshking John. I must admit that I got completely the wrong end of the stick when you mentioned a C rate. After looking it up and realised it referred to safe max speed of discharge rather than temperature (lol) I can see why it is of interest.

You may find this info on the test specification data sheets for individual batteries that can be found online, but for rewrapped batteries I doubt you will find any info.
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Got it Welshking John. I must admit that I got completely the wrong end of the stick when you mentioned a C rate. After looking it up and realised it referred to safe max speed of discharge rather than temperature (lol) I can see why it is of interest.

You may find this info on the test specification data sheets for individual batteries that can be found online, but for rewrapped batteries I doubt you will find any info.
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Got it Welshking John. I must admit that I got completely the wrong end of the stick when you mentioned a C rate. After looking it up and realised it referred to safe max speed of discharge rather than temperature (lol) I can see why it is of interest.

You may find this info on the test specification data sheets for individual batteries that can be found online, but for rewrapped batteries I doubt you will find any info.
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Theres an echo around here.

Well all things were considered when we were cloud chaising, so c rating was part of it all.

I didnt cloud chaise for very long, but i did want the best equipment at the time. Think the Triton tank was good but got very hot.

Anyway i paid £22 for the Nautilus on Amazon, just bought another for £6 from ebay, so finding things again slowly, mostly used for testing another mix.

It was hard getting my mix right, i use a juice me up pc program, in i had backups of my saves, but what i liked then isnt the dame now.

60%pg 40%vg and 13mg nic with 0.8ml spearmint is last mix, i think i need to buy some tobaco flavours. Thats how i started last time. One big thing i must have been smoking weaker tobaco before.

So because there was dome difficulty in buying the same as i had before, thought its best to buy the updated Aspire tank and coils, plenty of the new coils here.

If i remember most of my high clouds to start with was the Kanger sub box, to start eith, but bottom fill was annoying, got a top fill on here, those colour triton coils were good too

So moving along o
Slowly and finding the battries more than enough for the levels im using.

Anybody use temperature control? Dont think i used it more than once to test.
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Well the 3 year old Sony VTC5 2600ma 12C 30A continual, shut down with under voltage, still has half the power.

So time to retire it, try the old Samsung 21R next.

Imren holding up well for 5 days...
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