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#11 (permalink)      9/30/2021 8:48:57 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Troepfler wrote:

@ CrispycrittersPeople using an Atto have to build their coil exactly to the ohms to get the desired watts.The Atto is/was an unregulated tube mod, and the users have to live with volts 3.4 to 4.1, not a constant vape and a lot of battery change.With the addition of a constant volt component to the existing chip,we would have constant 3.7 volts resulting in constant vape and a much longerbattery using time in the mod, because battery 3.4 (3.3) to 4.1 can be used.With such a perhaps small and perhaps very cheap construction change,an Atto can improve a lot.Sure you will have to build the coil exactly to the desired watts,but thats the same on the original mod.And tube mods sometimes have beautiful designs, collectors items.VW or VV will only be a help for users which want every week a completely new and different coil construction, and VW/VV needs construction space.



I do understand what you are talking about, but the demand isn't there.

I'm sure there are a handful of people that still use exactly the same build and vape at the same voltage as they have for years. But they are a minority - as hobbyist vapers are only a small percentage of all vapers, they are a minority of a minority so it makes little commercial sense to make products for them.

Your best chances of finding the type of device you are looking for is to join a few Vape Forums (NOT Fasttech where the majority of members just come here to squabble and ridicule each other) and start a Wanted style thread as there normally members who have vaped for years who have plenty of old equipment they no longer use.

Good luck.

#12 (permalink)      9/30/2021 10:03:09 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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been an enthusiast vaper since 2013, seen it all

there's never been anything that really fits my notions of how things should be. Lol.
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#13 (permalink)      9/30/2021 3:12:31 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Hiko9 wrote:

been an enthusiast vaper since 2013, seen it all

there's never been anything that really fits my notions of how things should be. Lol.



Right? A regulated 22mm tube mod ~70mm in height, replaceable 18650, simple control for voltage. I'd buy a dozen.

It's no worth it.
#14 (permalink)      9/30/2021 6:00:22 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Add 350 mode and il buy 1
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#15 (permalink)      9/30/2021 11:01:02 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Not gonna happen at 70mm, unless you "piggy back" the chip, making the tube shape suffer a bit. Take LOST VAPE's new entry - that appears to be exactly what they did, only with 21700 in mind.

I personally would like to see a custom made chip that could fit on an 18650 tube, with the mods "shell" still maintaining a tube shape, only larger diameter. Not piggy backed on top, but incorporated so that the mod looks like a 21700 tube, when really its 18650 and a chip/screen.

Get to work, BP MODS!
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#16 (permalink)      10/1/2021 7:07:47 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Ible_ wrote:

A regulated 22mm tube mod ~70mm in height, replaceable 18650, simple control for voltage. I'd buy a dozen.


Like I wrote in post #10, for me constant volts 3.7 at e.g. the Atto would be a big improvement.'
With this feature, the mod is still not a regulated mod, but very close to a regulated mod.
If users would like VW/VV at e.g. the Atto, it is also possible,
the Atto has a side fire button, which can be used to adjust VW/VV.
The space on the existing chip will be perhaps too small for VW/VV,
a second deck (chip) would perhaps need 4mm,
but we gain 2-3mm because we dont need the bottom on/off.
The question is, how to use VW/VV without a screen?

I checked the LostVape webside, I dont see the innovation for tube mods.

#17 (permalink)      10/1/2021 9:16:26 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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It's not an innovation, just an example of piggy-backing, and it's called the CYBORG. Basically a cheaper SL , and comparable to a Cold Steel. Nothing special, IMO, but the Cold Steel 100 (both of them) let me down, so maybe LV will be a step up in quality.
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Ible_ wrote:

Hiko9 wrote:
been an enthusiast vaper since 2013, seen it all

there's never been anything that really fits my notions of how things should be. Lol.

Right? A regulated 22mm tube mod ~70mm in height, replaceable 18650, simple control for voltage. I'd buy a dozen.



As an 18650 is 65mm in length asking a manufacturer to make a 70mm tube to house an 18650 which has a battery cap at one end and use a standard floating 510 connection at the other only using 5mm would be a challenge. If you measure the length of the 510 on any atty they are approximately 4mm long - and this must be able to screw into the mods 510 and not come into contact with the battery..

The same applies with the width a 22mm tube - an 18650 is 18mm wide, this would leave less than 4mm to fit a chip and wiring (which must be enclosed).

You're asking for something the size of a SMPL mech mod to be fully regulated and house an 18650.

Something like this could be manufactured but forget using an 18650 - to keep the dimensions so small the only realistic approach would be to use an 18350 or a compact cylindrical lipo, then you would be limited to low Amp MTL vaping and 1500mah max capacity.

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@carrion4worm

I dont understand the meaning SL and LV, sorry.
I think I know what Cyborg and piggy-backing means, but I am not sure.

Some users and me talk about tube mods in 22mm,
or a bit bigger with a bigger battery.

Something like Cold Steel 100 is not a tube mod,
something like this is only ugly.
#20 (permalink)      10/1/2021 11:00:28 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Crispycritters wrote:
and use a standard floating 510 connection [/quote]

Do you see a floating 510 in an Atto?

Btw. Crispycritters, you seem to be total stupid about tube mods,
but OK, your registration was in Oct 2020.
Hopefully I can talk to you when you have better ideas.

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#21 (permalink)      10/1/2021 12:15:44 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Troepfler wrote:

Crispycritters wrote:
and use a standard floating 510 connection



Do you see a floating 510 in an Atto?[/quote]

Because I was replying to Hiko9's post where he specifically mentioned he would like to see a REGULATED tube mod of small dimensions.