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#1 (permalink)      8/13/2021 5:28:57 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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BB, Supbox, Delro (etc?)
Are the mods mentioned in the tite use the same kind of atomizers? What I mean are those atomizers/tanks are interchangeable?
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Yes.
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And dotAIO too right?
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No. Dot aio tanks and rbas are much smaller.
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Thanks the info, one last question... Delro and bb are basically the same only in different style... I mean appearance. Right?
Edit:
No no no! I see now! The delro has built in battery and the bb is 18650... Sorry... I was just too lazy to do my own research... But still, those too are basically the same...

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Yes. Dot Aio is not regulated...more of a mosfet/potentiometer device. Okay for some, but my OhmVape (Dot Aio clone) went back in the box.

For higher resistance builds that many Billet rbas require, the ability to control your wattage is huge, and the DNA60 is a very powerful low wattage chip.

The Boro mods with Sevo 70 chipsets are no slouch either.
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My first Aio was the Ohm Vape.. It was under $20 and takes Dot rbas... So I thought it wasn't too bad as a first Aio.. They aren't around anymore..

Then I got a Dot Aio... Which has plenty of rba options, but its only so powerful.. and you can't dial in wattage.. The Billet is the OG, regulated, boro bridges will give you more options later down the road, and you have the standard 18650..

If you want a first Aio.. I'd go all out, get one of the new color DNA Billets...

The lipo in the Delro may deter you in some way.. as it doesn't last long... Being that I have 10 boro/bridge mods.., it doesn't bother me.. But if it were the only Aio I had, it would get cumbersome..

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I've often though that many DOT AIO tanks, rbas, and panels may work with the Ohm Vape, but with a Mosfet any build higher than .2, .25 will suffer and power will sag...many vapers use these devices in mtl, low wattage situations where it isn't as obviously noticed, but it's still there, sagging and dragging!

We had a discussion recently where users gave their idea of "being a builder"...well, I build to every device. First, know the mod style (mech, mosfet, regulated). Then, the atomizer. Does it have air options? MTL? RDL? size of deck and screws, etc. should determine build, and is the only way to optimize any atomizer. There is no "build to rule them all", BUT, for MTL people, a regulated mod is a must, maybe with at least 5 volts output.

To the OP: The Supbox is a great way to get in and test the water! I own two DNA models, but the Sevo is great too. I don't blame you at all for the price it is....less than 50.00 is a steal for a Boro mod, and if you don't care for them, you've got a nice SBS.

The easiest set up may be the Exocet V2, and a "normal" Boro tank, with the sliding glass front. We tend to know Billets and Boros here at FT, so when the time comes, ask!
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Tony215 wrote:

My first Aio was the Ohm Vape.. It was under $20 and takes Dot rbas... So I thought it wasn't too bad as a first Aio.. They aren't around anymore..Then I got a Dot Aio... Which has plenty of rba options, but its only so powerful.. and you can't dial in wattage.. The Billet is the OG, regulated, boro bridges will give you more options later down the road, and you have the standard 18650..If you want a first Aio.. I'd go all out, get one of the new color DNA Billets... The lipo in the Delro may deter you in some way.. as it doesn't last long... Being that I have 10 boro/bridge mods.., it doesn't bother me.. But if it were the only Aio I had, it would get cumbersome..


Tell me please about the Dot RBA options. I'll be probably getting SKU 9725182 but if any RBA is available that fits into the stock tank, would be great to know.

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RattyRat wrote:

And dotAIO too right?

As @Carrion4worm said; No chance unfortunately. DotAIO RBAs and Billet Box Bridges are very different sizes unfortunately;


cilika wrote:

Tell me please about the Dot RBA options. I'll be probably getting SKU 9725182 but if any RBA is available that fits into the stock tank, would be great to know.

I have 4 RBAs for the DotAIO. There are a couple of others out there as well but I don't find there to be a huge difference in performance unless the RBA is of a very specialised ilk. The only one I wouldn't recommend is DotMod's own RBA. It's a little basic for what you get and performance behind most other alternatives;

Mine are all authentic so not sure if the clones are different but from left to right;
Atmizoo DotShell; Very versatile for MTL to RDL. Relatively easy to build on, especially if you have experience with the VapeShell and/or VapeSnail decks. Condensation build up is about average.
MTL pins need to be purchased separately. I personally find the RDL performance slightly better than the MTL performance but it is still good all round
DotMission RBA; Pretty versatile RBA. I find this a little easier to build on than the DotShell because of the deck having a cutout for your coil tool. A little less condensation build up to the DotShell. Similar performance to the DotShell but I prefer the MTL this bridge gives with the included 1mm pin. This RBA comes with 1.0-3.5mm air reducers
EVL Dot Spot; EVL deck in a DotAIO bridge. If you haven't built this type of deck before, it might not be as intuitive as the previous two. Wicking is slightly trickier. Condensation is less than the two above because this RBA takes up the whole of the RBA cavity. Again, similar but good performance for RDL however if the optional MTL pins are purchased separately, I find this to have a stronger and true restricted MTL performance with the 0.8mm pin compared to the above
SVT Bilux; This is a one trick pony but it is quite a magnificent pony. Pure MTL with SVT's usual crappy approach to airflow restriction ie. External plastic crap on the condensation plug.
This is only capable of a very tight MTL to restricted MTL. No loose MTL here.
Smallest deck to work with and slightly higher learning curve on wicking too. The most difficult to build on. I get no condensation with this unit, even so, there is the option of lining the condensation plug with cotton (there is a reservoir for it) which makes it an even cleaner bridge to use.
True and flavourful MTL Draw. A personal favourite.
Very low power requirements and also increased capacity (0.5ml more than the others) due to the design. Very efficient with juice as well.
I almost exclusively pair this with a DotAIO mini (18350) due to the efficiency with battery/juice and increased capacity.


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If your going fir a dotaio don't bother with the clone evl spot had one and it was shit compared to the dotshell.

which is one of the best I've used and don't get the actual dotaio rba no flavour from it

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