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#1 (permalink)      1/11/2014 1:48:15 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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The Golden Greek - PROTEUS variable voltage
there will be soon the first VV-mod from GG released - THE PROTEUS!

"If you eliminate the voltage problem that small batteries have keeping them steady then there is no problem vaping at 3,6 volts. The bad thing with smaller batteries is the voltage drop, we will not have this now." (Imeo)



- 100mm length and 17mm width
- 14500 battery
- the first 14500 tube battery keeping the voltage steady - solving this prob with the batteries
- the first battery mod with removable electronics
- electronic button unit separate from main tube (can be swapped out)
- AD control (like GGTS)
- venting cap for safety
- deep engraving on the tube
- adjustable front cap has always contact (without spring)
- no springs (battery or button), avoiding the common probs

The button has the following functions:
- lock-unlock option
- protection if wrong battery insert
- short cirquit protection
- boost voltage from 3 to 7,4V
- cut current (button more than 14 sec)
- flat SS button

thanks to the researching blogger !

...after all, we can be sure, this thing will be the most PERFECT available - for looong time...


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the authentic ithaka


looks pretty much like SKU 1505000

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PROTEUS prototype


source again: blogger gg160
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This is not aimed at the OP, but rather inventor of everything (har ****ing har), Imeo. Who rather conveniently forgets the robust 14500 and at least two other 14500 tubular products which have had regulation. One of them, i believe, was a vision product.

There's a bloody good reason why 14500 stuff doesn't get regulated. 14500 batteries, if you take an Efest IMR14500 V1 (imo the best 14500, beats AW) are about 7-10% less of a battery than an IMR 18350. One of which I flattened in 25 minutes vaping at 11w with a kick 2. I don't get long out of an 18350 in a mech mod, which gets significantly better battery life than any regulated device i have tried. Regulation increases the load on the batteries by whatever extra current it has to take to boost voltage, plus any device losses or inefficiency and the power to run the device. This makes the battery sag even further which makes the regulator draw more current and so on and so on until the battery sags to the low voltage cutoff

The small batteries just aren't really up to the load, which is why they sag so much even fresh charged (the voltage drop of which he speaks). So this will be either A: capable of no greater power than an ego twist (at best) and/or B: have a run time on a battery measured in minutes rather than hours.

No objection to regulated devices (i own two vamos two ego type regulated devices and five different kicks) or 14500 (i diy my 14500 box mods with very thick copper wire and nickel plated brass contacts to minimise mod voltage losses), just have an objection to imeo claiming something that isnt true and releasing products that are a waste of money as they will never be used due to the atrocious battery life. Or lack of available power. Or both.

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hhhmmmm... this would be then the first thing in the quite constantly outstanding line of GG inventions, that "sucks" (big time) ?

additional info from the gg wiki:
"Boost voltage from 3 to 7.4 volts
Keeps the voltage steady at 3.6 volts so no drop in performance"

dunno, but the strategy seems to be: keeping voltage on 3.6V, constant, and adjust proper vapor by electronics - so, minimal battery impact(discharging) and long battery life..???
means, you cant adjust anything with this mod ? perhaps a display for ohms or "boosted voltage"?

i would think this guy is quite genius... but not sure, if this proteus can compete with the other big guns in the upper price segment...

the price (ecig-forum) seems to settle between 150 and 170 euro (200-230 USD), INCLUDING the penelope atty - as shown in the pic above (which is alone already ca 100 euro).
so, the proteus could be single perhaps 90-100 euro worth?
release date seems soon, 2nd half of january apparently.

in the forum he was asked if the electronic could be taken out - to have a mech mod... i understood, he is going to design a proteus mech mod later...

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the gg wiki says - in contrary to the blog
17mm width
93mm length
165.5mm total length in combination with Penelope

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A Penelope perch! Cue renewed demand for Euforia.
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I'm interested... Continue.

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I've been working on fixed voltage regulation for a few months now as a more reliable, generally slightly more efficient (and much easier to build) regulation for mech users who are used to coiling to a voltage.. it's the way forward for proper vapers who just cant get on with vdrop imo.

The constantly outstanding line of GG products. I can't criticise other products by imeo as his GG line is good and phenomenally well made but he's barking up the wrong tree with this one imo. Clever electronics can't extract from a battery what isn't there

150-170 EUR including a penny isn't a bad price at all - i'm happy to give props to Imeo when he does something right and that's a nice deal for including a penny

doesn't stop the battery that the proteus takes from not being up to the job if you like to use ore than about 7-8w though

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i think so too, regarding "proper vapers who just cant get on with vdrop"...

i wish there was a thing that would work for 16 hours a day in a proper, CONSTANT manner...
or 3 such things, each providing constant vaping for 5 hours... its not there yet, is it ?
thats ceratinly a task for a VV-mod - perhaps the $7 passthrough...?

if this proteus is to provide "serious vapers" a prolonged and constant vaping, then there will be certainly a market - and it might attract potential new customers to vaping...
this itaste vv3 appears to me like a kids toy, some sort of joke... i feel arsed...

would be cool, if the proteus was optional also a simple passthrough (without battery in between)...
but so far nothing was said, whether it can be charged by USB...

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no idea, what his magic chip could do...

the itaste vv3 at 3.6V and 8Watt is dead, jim...

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PROTEUS is the god of the seas and rivers... the versatile one who can tell the future...


Proteus (The Oracle God)
Proteus is the oracle god of the sea, brother to Triton, and teacher of the ancient ways, he is young Homer’s guide to what lies beyond the mortal realms. He knows that to teach Homer what mortals need to know will come at a cost, and could very well mean the end of his own life, but a prophecy tells him that he must walk this path, it is time that the world of mortals knew the truth.


Proteus


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