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#11 (permalink)      11/16/2020 12:42:57 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Still.Me wrote:

I am not as crazy about the Samsung 21700 batteries as I am the purple wrapped VapeCell, I think they are called?

Yes, half the price but I also find they don't last as long as the Vapecell ones do.
I wondered at first if I were imagining that but time and time again they have proven not to last as long.

Those 21700 Vapcells are actually rewrapped Samsung 30T's. Molicell batteries are better than Samsung and Vapcell.

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Four 30Ts for US20? Nice touch!

djvillan wrote:

Those 21700 Vapcells are actually rewrapped Samsung 30T's.


Vapcell stopped using/re-wrapping 40Ts a while back. Don't know if it's the same for the 30Ts tbh.


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djvillan wrote:


Those 21700 Vapcells are actually rewrapped Samsung 30T's. Molicell batteries are better than Samsung and Vapcell.



I have heard that before but my experience with them would have said otherwise.

I got the Vapecells from one of the large 3 trusted battery spots in the US and the Samsung blue 30s here at Dashvape but the Vapecells are clearly better.

No idea why then.

In any event, I will look up the Molicells-thanks.


21700 4000mAh 3.7v. = Samsung.. are the ones I have


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djvillan wrote:

Those 21700 Vapcells are actually rewrapped Samsung 30T's. Molicell batteries are better than Samsung and Vapcell.



Ok, I looked it up in the US. They were rewrapped Samsungs but I still say they were far better than the other Samsungs I did buy.

21700 Vapcell INR21700 3100mAh Samsung INR21700-30T 35A High Discharge Flat Top = $13.99



A review at that spot: Mind you, this was in 2018 when I bought them, and they are still great.

For mech mod users, this is the hardest hitting 21700 cell out there at the moment. Tested way above the Sanyo 20700A in my drop tests, and has very low internal resistance. I use this cell in a single battery configuration as well as for my stacked 21700's
Mooch has done fantastic tests on this cell I believe, and they just confirmed my own tRead more about review stating The best 21700 on the marketests, that it's a fantastic cell.



Now I see these ones but they are less at $10.99

21700 Vapcell INR21700 3750mAh High Discharge Flat Top



The others I have but like less than the Vapcell rewrapped Samsungs

21700 Samsung INR21700-40T 4000mAh High Discharge Flat Top = $7.50



The 21700 Molicel 4200mAh INR21700P42A 45A High Discharge Flat Top at $7.99 are backordered so I cant buy them ATM

So why are the ones I purchased still more expensive than all of them?




The Molicel I can buy here but as I was planning on buying 8 or so, plus some more 18650s, I would have preferred to have picked them up in the US for almost half price.


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Vapecell has (or has had) at least 5 different purple 21700 batts on the market. You likely have one of the ones that isn't the samsung rewrap and has higher mAh but lower amperage. That's why you get longer runtime between charges over the Samsung. As long as they perform of you are are well above your vaping amperage, then keep on keepin' on with the vapcells. The best vape battery is the one that works best for you and is safe for your vaping style.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/bench-test-results-vapcell-purple-3100mah-35a-21700-appears-to-be-30t-an-incredible-35a-cell.859091/

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/bench-test-results-vapcell-purple-24a-3750ma-21700-conservatively-rated-seems-same-as-golisi-s35.847073/

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/bench-test-results-vapcell-purple-20a-4800mah-21700%E2%80%A6shamefully-overrated-a-%20samsung-48g-rewrap.837135/

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/bench-test-results-vapcell-purple-20a-4800mah-21700%E2%80%A6shamefully-overrated-a-%20samsung-48g-rewrap.837135/

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/bench-test-results-vapcell-purple-10a-5000mah-21700%E2%80%A615a-but-overrated-mah-runs-longer-than-samsung.837717/


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21700 Vapcell INR21700 3100mAh Samsung INR21700-30T 35A High Discharge Flat Top


Well, it is listed as a Samsung but they still out perform better than the others I have. But as stated, they are from 2018 and it seems that Mocicell are being purchased more at a lower price.
Whether it means it's a better battery or better priced, who knows. I certainly don't. 😆


Thanks, I will go check out that deal
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Mooch's tests are a snapshot in time and for rewraps that could mean that what he tested may not be the exact cell you get when you buy that same rewrap because they could have changed the source for that battery.
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vapeluvr wrote:

Mooch's tests are a snapshot in time and for rewraps that could mean that what he tested may not be the exact cell you get when you buy that same rewrap because they could have changed the source for that battery.



Perhaps that is why. I don't know. Perhaps I will just have to buy the better Molicells and only then can I compare them to the Vapecells I love and the Samsung 40Ts I was not as fond of yet everyone seemed to love.

Then I might have a better idea.

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I don't know how many of those Samsung batts you have, but there's a also a possibility you have a "bad" one and if you have more than one that you bought at the same place at the same time (or very close in time) then there is a possibility they came from a "bad" batch.

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Thats quite possible as I only have 4 and purchased all 4 at the same time, here at a well known vape store Dash Vapes.

Funnily enough, I purchased the Vapecells a year earlier and they still out perform the 40tS.



Ok. I am sold.
One day next week I will take a walk up to a certain store here that sells the Molicells and buy a handful.


Thanks for the info.
Maybe the 40Ts werent a great batch.