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#4911 (permalink)      1/22/2021 1:54:37 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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[url=https://unherd.com/2021/01/why-cant-the-left-let-go-of-trump/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3]Why can’t the Left let go of Trump? Those who thought they were fighting a monster are in danger of becoming one[/url]

There’s a moment in Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight when the Joker, played by Heath Ledger, has a sudden change of heart. For some 90-plus minutes of screen time, he’s been dead set on murdering Gotham’s caped crusader — only now, he realises that getting what he wanted would ruin everything. The battle isn’t a battle at all, but a precious symbiosis, a reason to keep getting out of bed in the morning. If he wins and he kills his nemesis, he loses.

“I had a vision of a world without Batman,” he muses. “And it was soooo…. boring.”

Today, the American Left is faced with a similar crisis. Donald Trump is, perhaps needless to say, not Batman. (Much as he might like to think otherwise.) But he is interesting, and for quite some time he’s played an essential role in motivating his opponents to action. After all, there’s no Resistance without a powerful force to throw one’s weight against.

For four years, Democrats and a handful of Republicans have looked forward to Trump’s defeat, and with it, an end to the fight. Only now, with the war won and a new president in office, it seems that nobody wants to let go. Not Donald Trump, who spent the last months of his presidency claiming to have been robbed, fomenting insurrection, and getting himself banned from every social media platform — but not his opponents either.

Meanwhile, the Left’s calls to defund the police have fallen abruptly silent; instead, we fantasise about more laws, more cops, more ways to wield our newfound authority against these Trumpist transgressors.The protest movement that defined us last year, the mass national outcry against police impunity and unbridled authoritarianism?

Six months ago, progressives marched against police overreach and scolded their fellow citizens for calling the cops on looters. Today, these same people fantasise openly about seeing the MAGA rioters behind bars. Activists who used the public sphere of social media to transform a hashtag campaign into a global movement for justice now celebrate the silencing of their political opponents.

The fact that this “terrorism” looked less like an organised movement, and more like a group of dogs who unexpectedly, improbably caught the car they were chasing, is irrelevant. In fact, it’s an American tradition: if no genuine plot against the country exists, we can always invent one, cobbled together from scraps to look like something real. A secret Iraqi bunker full of weapons of mass destruction; a secret coup being plotted deep in the bowels of QAnon and Parler.

We have spent four years in a state of energising, symbiotic hatred; we can’t just let it go. Battling Trump gave us a sense of purpose, and in some cases, even a sense of self. Winning, on the other hand, is a dull affair with boring prizes — so much so that many of us are would rather stay where we are, unwilling to declare victory, grinding our defeated opponents into smaller and smaller pieces until there’s nothing left to punish. We are chasing the dragon of outrage just to feel alive again. The fight was what united and defined us. What’s a Resistance warrior to do?

“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.
#4912 (permalink)      1/22/2021 1:54:43 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Graymatter_Repairman wrote:

McConnell privately says he wants Trump gone as Republicans quietly lobby him to convictCNN has learned that dozens of influential Republicans around Washington -- including former top Trump administration officials -- have been quietly lobbying GOP members of Congress to impeach and convict Donald Trump.No surprise there, including the total lack of patriotism to stand behind their words publicly. There's nothing to do with this cancer on democracy called the GOP but burn it to the ground.




Trump is a festering puss sack, let them keep him. Trump just proved what a bunch of retarded, bootlicking snowflakes upper management is as the RNC.

The only thing Trump accomplished was stacking SCOTUS and that was because RBG, bless her tiny soul, couldn't keep on a few extra months. 73 million votes are disappointing but the fact is Trump's 2016 win was a fluke. He's a loser and even he knows it.

At no point in Trump's rambling, incoherent 1 term presidency was there anything close to what could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the country is now dumber for having experienced it.
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Still.Me wrote:
[quote][url=https://unherd.com/2021/01/why-cant-the-left-let-go-of-trump/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3]Why can’t the Left let go of Trump? Those who thought they were fighting a monster are in danger of becoming one[/url]
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If you beat cancer you'd be talking about it.

There isn't much to say about Biden right now, except perhaps that I hope he doesn't get carpal tunnel from signing all these orders. It's not his first rodeo though, he had to fix the country after the last Republican president.

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At no point in Trump's rambling, incoherent 1 term presidency was there anything close to what could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the country is now dumber for having experienced it.
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lol, they found this unicorn the wandering the streets of DC. I'd say he represents a large majority of the 73 million that voted for Trump because despite the lies and craziness there was some policy they agree with.


At no point in Trump's rambling, incoherent 1 term presidency was there anything close to what could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the country is now dumber for having experienced it.
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hahahahahaa


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He incited what now?




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"Seth Rogan (who?) Called Ted Cruz a fascist. I must post about it in China"
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There's stupid, and then there's Trump Derangement Syndrome stupid
#4918 (permalink)      1/22/2021 4:05:12 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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The UnHerd and the Whining of the Perfectly-Well-Represented
I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.” George Bernard Shaw
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#4920 (permalink)      1/22/2021 5:12:51 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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c411um wrote:

"Seth Rogan (who?)





He's part of the cabal of Canadian Jews that we sent to take over Hollywood and make yall liberals. Shatner, Levy, Candy, Fox. Even Harris, she was indoctrinated by Dave Foley, Scott Thompson, Bruce McCulloch Kevin Macdonald and Mark McKinney during her years in Toronto at Degrassi High School.

At no point in Trump's rambling, incoherent 1 term presidency was there anything close to what could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the country is now dumber for having experienced it.
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The "Law and Order Party":

Prospects to convict Trump erode as GOP opposition grows

'Many view it as a game of shirts and skins,' one GOP senator says of his colleagues

These people are a disgrace.

If I'm ignoring you it's because you're fallacy impaired. Here's hoping you rectify your problem so that we might have a sensible conversation.