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#31 (permalink)      2/23/2016 12:55:20 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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^^^good question. Japan? That's where I buy my kitchen knifes from time to time.

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DefMunky wrote:

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Hmm, very similar to SKU 1605700 but at nearly half the price....
It's the exact same knife except it doesn't have the Real Steel logo on it. Real Steel is essentially SRM's export division from what I can find. SRM is supposed to be domestic sales to China, which is why they started doing slip joints and smaller bladed knives, not so much larger ones due to China's knife laws. If you notice, the one I linked to also doesn't have an SRM logo, supposedly because it isn't legal in China. At least that is what I gathered from a bit of investigation on the internet. Also if you have a look at Real Steel you will see a LOT of familiar knives that are easily matched to the SRM "equivalent" which is usually smaller. Ganzo and Enlan are both exporters which is why their offerings are larger and have locks on the larger blades as well. I don't think they sell their stuff domestically like SRM, or if they do it is under a different name possibly and smaller offerings. The reason we westerners can buy the SRM stuff is third party exporters, not SRM directly like Real Steel or Ganzo and Enlan which I think also might be direct. I've also seen some evidence that they are all three different companies and not just different divisions of the same one as some people seem to believe.

I could also be full of crap, but from what I can find online it seems to be accurate. If nothing else I found it interesting and killed a LOT of time hunting down info. lol



Good work mate! I was all set for continuing last night but my battery went, but thanks all for suggestions. I do have a couple of knives en route from here so I'll necro this thread when they arrive, please feel free to keep this one running people.

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#33 (permalink)      2/23/2016 12:58:54 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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On the larger side, Enlan EL01 as previously mentioned is hard to beat for the money, one of my favorites larger knives.
A couple of my favorite Ganzos are SKU 1532801 and SKU 3355401
If you want a workhorse of a knife, get SKU 2094200. This thing is built like a tank with an almost 4mm blade.
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Naw, its the ali fast train (express) site. The cloners there are putting out awesome pieces. There are a few to stay away from but google reviews of the makers and you'll see who.

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Moosgummi wrote:

^^^good question. Japan? That's where I buy my kitchen knifes from time to time.



I get some of my kitchen knives from japan but I have found that some of the more reasonable items sold from there are manuf. in china. The legit Japanese knives just cannot be beat though.

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The Ganzo 717 and 720 are two I've had my eye on for a long time, I just got into vape gear before I ordered them. lol
#37 (permalink)      2/23/2016 1:14:50 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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vape8ion wrote:

Moosgummi wrote:

^^^good question. Japan? That's where I buy my kitchen knifes from time to time.



I get some of my kitchen knives from japan but I have found that some of the more reasonable items sold from there are manuf. in china. The legit Japanese knives just cannot be beat though.

True. I bought some knives over the last years from a Japanese mailorder. Paid about 80 USD incl. delivery for the 9.4" version of this knive three years ago. Handmade with Japanese stag handel. Look at the picture link. Maybe you know the guys.

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@vape8ion: I started to place a few orders from AE also recently.
Received last week a Spydy Domino clone (titanium handle + carbon fiber scale) and am currently waitin on 2 Shirogorov F3, one big (clone), one small (inspired), all 3 knives with ball bearings.
I agree with your comments about some nice clones out there but I'll need to restrain myself.
Paid almost $80 for those 3 knives (that would have been 6 to 8 knives here LOL!) and those are some of the cheapest.
They have some really nice clones from $70 to $130 with Titanium, CF, ball bearings, D2 steel, etc...
I have to try to stay away from that.
Being addicted to $10/$15 knives is one thing that is manageable. Being addicted to $100+ knives not so much LOL!

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vape8ion wrote:

The legit Japanese knives just cannot be beat though.


Also not cheap, but oh my gawd they're gorgeous! lol

Well, at least the handmade stuff. The factory produced stuff is still better than the majority of the western stuff too.

Yamashin hand made white #1 165mm santoku and a little ko bocho:



Goko 19C27 Damascus 240mm gyuto and a factory produced Tojiro DP 210mm gyuto:



I also have a large Goko stainless clad white #1 240mm gyuto, but I don't have a pic of mine.

This is a pic from the site where I bought it:



Looks like they sourced different handles (mine is a dark textured walnut) but the blades are still the same.

So yeah, I LOVE Japanese kitchen knives... they just aren't under $20... lol

I wish FT had some decent high value kitchen knives, but all I can find is ceramic crap. It doesn't have to be fancy Japanese or Swedish steels, I just want other choices than ceramic! One of the best value kitchen knives I've ever seen is a $30 Victorinox fibrox chef's knife. I'll still pull it out to use even with all the Japanese stuff. If FT could carry something similar I'd probably pick up a couple new kitchen knives to play with.

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They have some really nice clones from $70 to $130 with Titanium, CF, ball bearings, D2 steel, etc...



Yup, what I'm talking about. Most of the knives I have from FT are either in use as barn tools or set aside as problematic. They were cheap so no probs but I'm always looking for good tools.

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@DefMunky,
I really fall for the traditional handle in Japanese knives. My cheapest knife from there, like $45, is better than the best German knives I used to buy in another life.
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