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#1 (permalink)      11/22/2016 12:32:02 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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olliedixon
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Only 2000mah?
Why is it so "big" if it has such a small battery? I read that it has dual internal batterys.. Sure its not 2x2000mah? 2000 would only last 1/3 a day at high wattage.

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#2 (permalink)      11/22/2016 12:45:15 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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2000mah in a 2s box, so 4000mah in more familiar terms :)
"You quit cigarettes, you started vaping, and now you're Einstein"
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Forgive me.. but 2s box? :)
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#4 (permalink)      11/22/2016 12:49:38 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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2s lipo batteries, i.e., dual cells.
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Battery life is measured in Watt hour - Wh, not mah, and the nominal voltage of the batteries matter.

This has 2S Lipo cells inside - see the specs "Voltage input: 6.4 - 8.4V"
So the nominal Voltage is higher than your usual 3.7V, more like 7.4V
meaning:

2000mah * 7.4V /1000 = 14.8Wh

equivalent to 4000mah @ 3.7V (18650 cells) just like Sossij said

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Thanks joaopra :)
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#7 (permalink)      11/23/2016 2:11:21 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Although its slightly smaller than most mods that will take two 18650's and just a little larger than one mod that has a single 18650 it is just 14.8Wh.

A dual 18650 mod fitted with two say LG HE2's Which are rated at 3000mAh will give you 6000mAh @ 3.7v (22.2Wh) and when one or both cells die you dont have to throw away the mod or be left struggling to find a compatible battery and getting your soldering iron out.

Plus you can remove the batteries and charge separately in a proper charger, instead of charging the two cells in series.
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^ I quite agree, although there will always be people who do not want to deal with external batteries and charger.

My brother is one, he just wants to vape & go - not interested in the tech or the 'better' options.

My sister is the same, she uses whatever I give her (which equates to what makes MY life easier), she isn`t interested in the 'behind the scenes' whatsoever...I even have to build her coils

we here are a niche audience....comparatively ;)
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< me = just wants to vape & go - not interested in the tech or the 'better' options. hehe

For people like us buying batteries and a charger also adds like $20+ to the cost of the mod. And then there is the fact that by the time the batteries die (unless you are unlucky and it dies prematurely) i will more than likely have ungraded at least once.

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Personally the only real downside I have ever perceived from a built in battery mod is solely the downtime when waiting for it to charge. Mods with replaceable batteries can go bad just like these, and arguably since the batteries built in to the unit are essentially matched to the charging circuit (or vice versa, whatever) they could actually offer better performance than just sticking any old 18650 you happen to have inside a mod. Worst case scenario with a built in battery mod just treat them like you would batteries and buy two so you can keep one charging at all times and if one goes bad you have another to use while you replace the bad one. It's not really that much more than buying batteries and charger over the cost of a single mod, but you can wait a bit on the second unit if you like. You kinda sorta have to buy batteries at least if the mod doesn't come with them built in.

Personally I like replaceable batteries in anything, but I can certainly understand the draw to built in batteries and if I REALLY liked the design of a mod with them I'd buy it. I just have yet to see that mod... lol If I could find the Praxis Vulta without the stupid tank (4.2V constant output and built in battery) I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but noooooo, it's only available with the tank... or if I could find it dirt cheap with the tank I'd still get it. lol
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Batteries are like $5 or $10 depending on what you buy, most mods now have usb charging, so leave the cell in and charge in a device like you would with this, but like DefMunky said. One of the best thing you do with an mod with replaceable cells is you can drop in a fresh 100% cell and off you go without having to wait for another full charge if your in a rush or worse when it dies just swap out the cell and keep your mod rocking.