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#1 (permalink)      8/31/2016 8:07:44 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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SS wire in Power Mode
Just ordered some SS wire and wanted to use it in Power Mode and I would like to hear from you guys on a couple of things.
Will this wire require less power and wouldn't the resistence change after a few hits( making the mod fire at higher voltages)?
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#2 (permalink)      8/31/2016 8:58:00 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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No / Yes.. A watt is a watt no matter the coil material used..
A 1 ohm kanthal coil uses the same amount of watts as a 1 ohm 316L SS coil or any other alloy wire.. Any power loss would come from the mod and how it converts said power.. The ohms change slightly if chain vaping..
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Most VW mods do ohm calculation on the fly. So you can use SS, Ti, Ni and still get the right wattage.
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I believe that to get the same vape, you'll need to roughly halve the ohms of the coils you'd build if you were building with Kanthal A1. So it would mean more power.
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wuwei.ap wrote:

I believe that to get the same vape, you'll need to roughly halve the ohms of the coils you'd build if you were building with Kanthal A1. So it would mean more power.


Not true, you just need to use more wraps of SS wire by comparison, but not quite enough to reach the exact same resistance. The same resistance would be cooler feeling, but produce more vapor, so slightly less resistance (imo about 80%) will have similar warmth.

SS wire works best for bypass mode and unregulated mods as well as mech mods, imo, but also can work great for TC and vw mods as long as they have a good module with firmware that calculates accurately.

VV mods should do great with SS wire too.


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So to get the same vape still an increase, and not a decrease in power?
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wuwei.ap wrote:

So to get the same vape still an increase, and not a decrease in power?


It won't be the same vape still, it will use more power, and produce more vapor, but have the same warmth as before.

You, imho, cant get the "same" vape using SS wire vs KA1 wire, due to the change in resistance at temperature, but in most ways, imo it's a better vape.

You could get closest to the same vape by using a bit thinner gauge of wire vs the KA1 you previously did, but again, the change in resistance at temperature would still have some effect overall. IMO, it actually helps to make the vape more consistent feeling.

Also, with vw mods, etc. You'll see the change in resistance more the more resistance you use.


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I think that's the answer that OP was looking for.
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To get the same vape you'd have to use the same amount of wire (gauge & turns) and the same heat flux. In this case, the same wattage in VW. It will use the same amount of power.

I do above all the time with Ti & SS


Using a mech or VV would be a very different situation.

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Going from kanthal to SS as a mech user, I noted the following things, SS can get hot and dryhit nasty when taking long hits, SS will accentuate the acidic flavors better, resulting in a crisper flavor for some/ most liquids. Kanthal is much more user friendly, can be dry burned and rewicked for superior coil longevity than SS can.
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yorgen wrote:

... Kanthal is much more user friendly, can be dry burned and rewicked for superior coil longevity than SS can ...


Can you dry burn SS 316L? I'm new to 316 and would like to be safe, is it similar to Ni200 and Ti in that case?

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