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#1 (permalink)      9/16/2016 8:31:35 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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How do you guys screw the tank without moving the deck barrel?
I have this tank for ages but was missing an oring and never tried to build it. Now that I found the spare orings I'm wondering if I'm getting this right... when one screw in the tank, the chimney is supposed to catch and screw into the juice flow control thingy but it's a delicate operation, way too easy for the whole barrel and JFL to move and twist wick and coil.

I'm also wondering how the JFL cap works. If the chimney is supposed to screw in there and the cap has no fixed position, won't that make a poor seal?

I'm possibly missing something obvious as a lot of people swear by this tank so please help me out here!

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In my hotcig one, the chamber barrel does not rotate when I"m screwing the tank on the base. In another cheaper clone I have, it can rotate sometimes.

However, if you pull the barrel up and down a bit, there is a position where it locks and does not twist so easily.

The chamber cap has an o-ring. If the o-ring is in place and the cap is screwed in enough that the o-ring is in contact with the barrel, it will make a seal.

Personally I've found no difference between the JFC positions even with 100% VG, but I vape at about 1.2 Ohms around 12-15 Watts.
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Judging from the comments, mine is from a more recent batch of Hotcig ones, has no logos or serials or anything laser etched anywhere. It came on a Hotcig box, has the spare red orings and the posts can be fully disassembled so I'm assuming it is a Hotcig one.

Thanks for the tips but maybe I have a bad one, I can't find any position where the barrel locks or gets tight enough not to move. The top of the barrel gnaws the oring on the cap badly, it's a pain even to get it to the beginning of the threads. The oring I was missing was this exact one, it broked the second I took the cap off when it arrived. Probably something wrong with my barrel, that's why I'm having all this issues... Oh well, one last try and off to the shelf with it if it doesn't work. No luck for me with clones :(

Thanks again @kkraaj!!
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There is no JFC. That's an early misunderstanding that has stuck around since the V1.

Keep the wick inside the chamber, make sure the oring that holds the chamber to the deck does so firmly and tighten the chamber cap down before installing the tank.
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You could try another chamber/ cap, these SKU 2245200 are good although I've used them on the GT2 bases available here not on the Hotcig.
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I can confirm SKU 2245200 that cmj55 posted fits the hotcig. If you want more juice flow dremel larger holes in the chamber.
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gph61 wrote:

There is no JFC. That's an early misunderstanding that has stuck around since the V1.

Keep the wick inside the chamber, make sure the oring that holds the chamber to the deck does so firmly and tighten the chamber cap down before installing the tank.



You mean like this? (photo from a Hurricane, I think)

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Well, this is what happens when I start to screw the top cap :D



Aaargh, so wished the Kayfun V3 was 22mm and held more juice...

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gph61 wrote:

I can confirm SKU 2245200 that cmj55 posted fits the hotcig. If you want more juice flow dremel larger holes in the chamber.



Thanks guys! No, I use somewhere from 50 to 60PG (DIY) so these ports should be fine.

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kutusov wrote:
[quote]gph61 wrote:
There is no JFC. That's an early misunderstanding that has stuck around since the V1.

Keep the wick inside the chamber, make sure the oring that holds the chamber to the deck does so firmly and tighten the chamber cap down before installing the tank.

You mean like this? (photo from a Hurricane, I think)

[img][/img]

Well, this is what happens when I start to screw the top cap :D

Aaargh, so wished the Kayfun V3 was 22mm and held more juice...[/quote]

It seems to be a case of a wrongly placed or wrong sized o-ring(it does seem too thick in the pic). Never had this happen on any of mine even the $12 clone.


OP, why don't you try putting this o-ring at the base and see if you have a similar but thinner o-ring at the base or in your spares?

Also, for me I get the best flavour when the wick heads straight out from the coil to about 2-3mm outside the wicking window in the chamber. I kept the wick inside the base, resting against the window in an S shape sometimes, but the flavour got muted everytime.


OP, this document might help.
https://vk.com/doc-106852151_437023213?dl=d8ed8e0206e10991e2

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Also make sure there's a bit of juice on orings before screwing things together.
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That's a good idea to swap the o-rings the one in the photo is too big.

I have my chamber holes ground out to 4mm. (for max. VG) and use fluffy s-wicks. The s-wicks work well for me and have the advantage that if the chamber should turn a small amount it doesn't matter.

I mount my coil downwards unlike the photo, getting it close to the air hole. I use a 3mm. id coil made with 28awg SS316l which just fits between the posts.

Although we will all build these slightly differently, most would agree that the Taifun is well worth persevering with.
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