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#1 (permalink)      2/3/2015 6:28:49 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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having trouble with 28G
Pretty decent set of coilers but for some reason I cant use 28G (and up) in these, after about 3 wraps it starts making stovetops. I have tried applying more pressure, less pressure, bending the wire outward but nothing seems to work. Am I doing something wrong here?

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My first one did that too, using 28 gauge. It takes a bit of a light touch. Getting used to not grabbing the pliers and pulling the ends tight is a bit difficult too. I think it helps to picture it as "laying" the wire down rather than forcing it.
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Ah don't say that, Mine have just arrived and i only have some 28G wire. But i'll try it out and post up later
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They're only made for 28G and bigger. Even 28G is problematic, but you can just about work with it.
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My first one did that too, using 28 gauge. It takes a bit of a light touch. Getting used to not grabbing the pliers and pulling the ends tight is a bit difficult too. I think it helps to picture it as "laying" the wire down rather than forcing it.
KF4 Leaking? For a more secure seal, replace the o-ring #16 with one that is 1.5mm cross section. SKU 1536606 or SKU 1536607
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Robert2 wrote:

They're only made for 28G and bigger. Even 28G is problematic, but you can just about work with it.


No problems with 26G and 24G, apart from the coils being somewhat diagonally wrapped.

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24 and 26 are bigger than 28. You will have no problems.
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28 is the thinnest wire I have, rarely use it, but did try on a kuro and it can be done, but as stated before you need a light touch.
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With a bit of practice you can do the finer gauges. You have to guide the turning cap along by hand a bit. Don't press back on the coil. I got the hang of 30 gauge in a couple of minutes, 32 gauge is a bit trickier but doable. These things are amazing, much better than I expected. The coils look just perfect.
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Just speculating but would pre-heating thinner gauges help?
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I think that stiffer is better, with these. Firmer leverage.

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KF4 Leaking? For a more secure seal, replace the o-ring #16 with one that is 1.5mm cross section. SKU 1536606 or SKU 1536607
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28G is the thinnest I have as well, I use it in my Erl and will need it for my eGrip coils.
After about 2 meters of wire I've managed to make a semi perfect coil. What I don't like about these Koilers is that the coils aren't as tight as when I used a pin vise. You can't put tension on the wire as much as I'd like, particularly not with 28G. 24G is ok.
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