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#1 (permalink)      8/26/2013 8:33:40 PM   + tips
Lowtech
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Why is Hcigar better ?
Can some one explain what makes Hcigar version better then tobecco ? They both have brass contact(even if this version had silver pin, the difference in conductivity is minimal if the tube is SS IMO), dimension is the same etc.
I don't buy those posts stating safety issues on Chinese clones posted by resellers because at the end you can fix the flaws if there is any .
#2 (permalink)      8/26/2013 10:53:40 PM   + tips
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There are some clones made by tobecco that is just terrible. I have never bought tobecco product before, but the consensus is that they are inferior because of a few issues. Hcigar on the other hand has a good track record. EHpro is another cloning company which made the famous EHpro EA clone. Rainbow Heaven is also a different cloning company which came out with the Vamo, I think; I need confirmation on this one.
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#3 (permalink)      8/27/2013 1:08:37 AM   + tips
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@PinoyBoy, whats problems with clones from Tobeco, can You clearly?
#4 (permalink)      8/27/2013 1:46:16 AM   + tips
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@Pinoy Thanks for the info . Hope the brass version I bought isn't from Tobecco.
#5 (permalink)      8/27/2013 3:38:29 AM   + tips
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@PinoyBoy

Rainbow did Smyrna 1 aka MKBTS or how is it called. Best clone of GGTS. They made also original Terminator/Nautilus (clone of Oddy), Euforia (Penelope) and now Hercules (Ithaka).
Their clones are nearly identical, most of the parts could be switched with original.

EH pro is cool, now they made also n-zonic clone.

Tobeco (not Tobecco - it is Together Best Cooperation)... I heared some good things lately but Oddy clone was so poor... I will wait until see something really HQ from them.

Hcig - honestly I think it is not the same like RH or EH pro... they made some mistakes too in past. But possibly they bought new CNC and copied this well ;)
#6 (permalink)      8/27/2013 2:38:02 PM   + tips
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Havana Cigar>Hcig / Tobacco>Tobecco LOL.These company names do really need mod.
I have an Ithaka FT,no idea who made this but a great one this is.
I really wish for a EHpro stock here in FT and Rainbow sounds great as well, I don't get the Sigelei hype.
#7 (permalink)      8/27/2013 3:59:37 PM   + tips
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Sigelei is cool because they've ripped off pretty much everyone. Their mods are around $20 - $35 depending on which model (over 50 models!) and which vendor you buy it from. Almost all of them are stainless steel, or brass, with a chrome plated brass connections. Almost all of them have excellent threads. They have a large following on Reddit, ECF, aussievapers, calivapers, and other online communities. They are available to American vendors.

However, despite their low price and high availability, many of them are in need of slight modification to make them work near flawlessly. Usually sanding the contact points and hot spring issues are the most common ones.
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#8 (permalink)      8/27/2013 4:34:08 PM   + tips
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If sigelei would stop making all their mods 23mm and actually test them before they start producing and selling them they could dominate the market but I have yet to see one mod from them that didn't get released with some sort of issue. I personally lost all respect for them. I have owned 7 of their mods and it shows in every one of them that they aren't willing to waste money on QC. The only 2 mods i liked were the zmax v2 and flat top tele zmax. Every mechanical needed something to get it working like it should with the #20 not being able to perform no matter what even with new hot spring. Even that I was willing to look past since I like to tinker anyway but they aren't even cloning the original mods and their clones of the clone is worse then the clone they are cloning. Lmao, I couldn't help myself. Their clone of the k100 is a perfect example.
#9 (permalink)      8/29/2013 2:28:13 AM   + tips
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So, who manufactures these chi yous?
#10 (permalink)      8/29/2013 7:50:25 AM   + tips
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Im not sure who makes these. But i know they are not made by Hcigar. I just ordered some from them and asked. They said they do not supply fasttech with the mods.
#11 (permalink)      8/29/2013 8:03:47 AM   + tips
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hmm, well when you get yours from here, can you compare them?